EXPELLED! NO INTELLIGENCE ALLOWED 11/29/2008
![]() Well, I finally had a chance to watch Expelled, Ben Stein’s movie on anti-intelligent design sentiments in academia. CommentsSun, 30 Nov 2008 2:03:58 pm Are you aware that the 'bad guys' in the film (ie. Eugenie Scott, PZ Myers, Richard Dawkins) say that they agreed to be interviewed under false pretenses? It certainly seems like a dishonest production through-and-through. Dave Sun, 30 Nov 2008 2:45:23 pm Jared, Imperfection Sun, 30 Nov 2008 7:24:31 pm Worse then just bad science, ID is an attempt to redefine how science operates. That is why it faces such hostility in academia. The scientific method is not arbitrary. It has been honed over centuries and at great personal sacrifice for many. Those in higher education who appreciate its power guard it jealously, and for good reason. The acceptance of pseudo science in place of real science would destroy our ability to understand our world and plunge us into a new dark age. Sun, 30 Nov 2008 9:56:46 pm ID is just not science. It's not a war of God and science as you've portrayed with atheists on one side and theists on the other. It's just an attempt by evangelical Christians to get their brand of creationism in the classroom. There are lots of believing scientists who want nothing to do with ID. I'm one. It's just not science. Like in the Chronicles of Narnia, putting a lion costume on a donkey did not make it Aslan, trussing creationism in scientific clothes does not make it science. It's just a bad idea anyway you look at it. Ryan Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:13:24 am In response to : “ID is just not science.” Mon, 01 Dec 2008 7:54:24 pm The demarcation between science and non-science is not a clean one. Some things are firmly in one category or the other, while others lay somewhere in between. Ryan Tue, 02 Dec 2008 8:37:46 am The idea that all life evolved from a single-celled organism and is therefore related to each other is not a notion that is subject to falsification. What laboratory experiment will you design that will demonstrate a non-repeatable past event like this? Even if it did happen long ago, it will have to remain forever unverified (i.e. you have to simply believe it happened that way). To suggest that this notion is scientifically more falsifiable than the ID alternative is a mistake. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 9:10:15 pm <i>is not a notion that is subject to falsification.</i> Ryan Wed, 03 Dec 2008 9:17:05 am The things you listed do not even demonstrate that evolution from a single-celled organism can happen, let alone that it did indeed happen (i.e. it does not come close to falsification). What you have listed are contemporary evidences that that can neither confirm nor deny the actuality of a one-time, non-repeatable past event. A similarity among genomes does not display that we all evolved from a single-celled organism (that would be a mere interpretation of an observation). A creationist would tell you similarity in genome denotes a common designer rather than universal relation – and who could prove them wrong? Both views are unfalsifiable. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 7:17:09 pm My point is that abiogenesis (which is really what we're talking about here) is not compatible with all potential findings. It has made it over several potential hurdles, and may or may not make it over others. Comments are closed. |




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