THE PROBLEM WITH THEISTIC EVOLUTION 04/29/2009
![]() Theistic evolution is the belief that God uses evolution to create life. CommentsTim 04/29/2009 16:48
I think we can all be grateful that Dawkins isn't God.
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Tim 04/29/2009 16:56
By the way, I looked up Robert J. Mathews on Wikipedia.
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Dave C. 04/30/2009 09:55
Tim,
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Ryan 04/30/2009 12:19
"So, if you don't think God created us through evolution, how do you think he created us?"
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Did you really quote Dawkins and Provine to support your position. Don't you get it, both your sides are playing the same game, all or nothing false dichotomy. Dawkins knows the evidence surrounding evolution. He would love for his quote to be true. Unfortunately for him, the high stakes game of chicken is complete fallacy, one that will end with a victory ultimately for the Dawkins side becuase he rigged it that way.
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Dave C. 04/30/2009 14:09
Doc,
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Dave C. 04/30/2009 14:16
Ryan,
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Sorry for the tone, but your repetition on the randomness thing is wearying. It's not random, it's selection, period, end of story. I can not follow how mutation being random leads inevitably to mankind being an accident.
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You're definition of evolution is a little too tight. Evolution is change over time, and can be driven by several processes, including but not limited to natural selection. If God intervened and, for example, made a desired mutation, it would still be evolution, but it would be due to a heretofore unrecognized mechanism--i.e. direct intervention by God.
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Dave C. 05/01/2009 09:54
Doc & Jared*,
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Only one of those mechanisms in your quote is random. I still do not follow how mutation being random inevitably leads to the conclusion that mankind is an accident.
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Clearly heritable change is rooted in the genome, where all kinds of changes occur--insertions, deletions, duplications, inversions, recombination, rearrangements, single nucleotide changes, and so forth. When such changes occur, what determines whether they will be maintained in the population? If the changes confer a reproductive advantage of some sort, they will be maintained. If the change is deleterious, it will eventually go extinct. Both are an outcome of natural selection. On the other hand, the change might be maintained or go extinct for chance reasons--maybe the few individuals with the change were drowned in a flood, or maybe they made it to a new island where all of their offspring have the change.
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Dave C. 05/01/2009 22:20
"Maybe somehow God directly participates in all of those things, but unless he is less sneaky about it science can never know about it."
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paul 05/16/2009 17:44
Jared and Doc
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